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Daily Kos has poll numbers:

New Mexico

American Research Group. 3/30-4/1. MoE 4%. No trend lines.

Bush 46
Kerry 45
Nader 3


(Entry title courtesy of Xopher. If you don't get the joke, you should probably read TNH's blog Making Light more often.)

UPDATE: Be sure to read the comments for more about why Rlph should fck ff nd d.

Date: 2004-04-06 09:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dougo.livejournal.com
I believe the numbers, I wasn't arguing them. My point is that you cannot simply conclude from those numbers that Ralph Nader was the single (or even primary) cause of Bush's victory. If you remove him from the equation, you have to recalculate all the variables from the beginning: not just the people who voted for Nader, but everyone who voted for Gore, Bush, Buchanan, or someone else—not to mention the millions who didn't vote at all—and figure out what they would have done in this hypothetical other world where Nader had dropped out or never run at all. Ultimately this is a pointless exercise in historical fiction. And why not go the other way, and wonder what would have happened if Nader had been allowed to join the 2000 debates? Maybe he'd have convinced more people of Bush's stupidity or corruption. Clearly Gore did a terrible job of this, but he was the only one allowed to debate. We need more voices, more options, and more reasoned discussion of the issues, not more whining, name-calling, and misdirected anger.

Date: 2004-04-07 08:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shelleybear.livejournal.com
Nader's campaign was backed by (at least some) Republican money.
I believe it is unlikely that a Republican-based special interest group would have supported it for the good of the country.
Once again, Nader had taken money from the Republican party. He has learned little or nothing. He is being a useful tool of the Republican party, and therefore will hopefully be ignored.
If he wants to promote change from within I agree with Randi Rhodes, he should sit down with Kerry (as he didn't do with Gore) and work out some sort of king-maker arrangement (unfortunately for him however, he has lost mountains of credibility sine 2000).

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