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womzilla ([personal profile] womzilla) wrote2012-11-02 10:58 pm

A potential crisis I didn't forsee (Sandy edition)

Westchester County has basically run out of gasoline, at least for private automobiles.

There are two major causes: Many gas stations are still without power, so all of the gas in their tanks is inaccessible; and riverine deliveries to the main local transshipment point (Newburgh, NY, about 60 miles north of Yonkers) have been suspended for several days because of high water on the Hudson. The latter is expected to end tomorrow (Saturday) or early Sunday, but, as it says at the link, "It's not going to happen overnight, though. It'll take a couple of days." A third, minor, cause is increased consumption by portable generators and yard equipment, which at least has contributed to hoarding and overbuying.

[livejournal.com profile] supergee witnessed some of the lesser appalling gas lines at stations near our house. Another article mentioned a station in White Plains that had a line of cars a mile long waiting, and complaints of waits 2 or 3 hours in Yonkers were common on Twitter today.

(My own experience with lines was limited to seeing a truly epic bus line in midtown Manhattan. It extended at least 2 blocks up Lexington before turning and running along 46th Street most of the way to the Park Avenue overpass--about 1/4 mile.)

Compared to having one's car or home destroyed, this is still pretty minor stuff. But it's a real problem. Running out of gas is not a problem that one can get around with mere patience or determination (walking to the subway is really not an option), and I worry that [livejournal.com profile] nellorat will not be able to reach work on Sunday. Sigh.

[identity profile] bugsybanana.livejournal.com 2012-11-03 04:22 am (UTC)(link)
a truly epic bus line in midtown Manhattan[...]-about 1/4 mile.

Luxury! The line for the shuttle bus Thursday morning around 9 am at the Barclays Center went around the perimeter of the arena twice, once in each direction - a bit over a mile altogether. Took about 45 minutes to get to boarding a bus. There was even a wait to get up the subway steps, and don't think I didn't have visions of dangerous overcrowding. Like I said on FB, I expect my authoritarian billionaire mayors to control crowds better than this.

[identity profile] minnehaha.livejournal.com 2012-11-03 05:58 am (UTC)(link)
I admit to wondering why gas stations couldn't bring in generators to power the pumps.

K.

[identity profile] minnehaha.livejournal.com 2012-11-03 06:03 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, I get it now.... the power outages aren't as wide-spread as I thought.

K.

[identity profile] womzilla.livejournal.com 2012-11-03 09:25 pm (UTC)(link)
My immediate reaction was that running a gas-powered generator near a gasoline pump would be dangerous, but I bet it isn't particularly. Generators are risky when being fueled, and in enclosed spaces, but they aren't otherwise any worse than a car engine.

[identity profile] womzilla.livejournal.com 2012-11-06 02:41 am (UTC)(link)
And, in fact, it turns out that generators are being brought to stations. And many other stations are getting power back without generators. As I drove nellorat to the subway on Sunday morning, we passed a line of cars waiting to fuel up at a station which had just come back on-line and thus still had gas from before the storm.
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[identity profile] sarah-ovenall.livejournal.com 2012-11-05 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
So did you get gas in time to get Nellorat to work?

[identity profile] womzilla.livejournal.com 2012-11-06 02:39 am (UTC)(link)
After several round trips to end of the subway on Saturday and Sunday, we currently have, I'm guessing, about 2 quarts of gas--enough to drive to a gas station IF AND ONLY IF there isn't a huge line and we are certain there is gasoline there. Our current plan is to keep checking the 2 nearest stations on foot, buy a gallon, and then go back in the car.

[identity profile] drcpunk.livejournal.com 2012-11-06 05:44 am (UTC)(link)
As [livejournal.com profile] sdelmonte notes, some day, this is going to be the norm. This does not exactly cause me to feel relaxed.

[identity profile] drcpunk.livejournal.com 2012-11-06 05:45 am (UTC)(link)
Er, I think he noted it on G+ or FB.